[at this point, there was a break in contact]

<OwlClone> How're you doing?  PJ isn't getting too close, I hope?

<OwlClone>

<Microchip> for what i know it seems not

<OwlClone> Good... OK, ready for my first question?

<Microchip> yes

<OwlClone> 3) Do you think script kiddies are dangerous, because they don't know what

<OwlClone> to do once they get inside systems?

<OwlClone> Fair enough.  This is, of course very true.

<Microchip> i dont have nothing against scrip kiddies. They can be the hackers of tommorow. I think of them as  learners.

<OwlClone> next?

<Microchip> yes

<OwlClone> 4) Do you own American servers? Do you think the FBI knows which servers you

<OwlClone> own, and are keeping their distance because they're afraid you'll trash them

<OwlClone> if they start arresting F0rpaxe members?

<Microchip> of course we own American servers. We have been owning them along time.

<OwlClone> But... do you think the FBI is really chasing you hard -- or are they worried about retaliation?

<Microchip> FBi doesnt have the minimum idea of what we own.

<OwlClone> 5) OSAll has heard a lot about a "big thing" forpaxe was planning -- is it scrapped now, or should we still hold our breath?

<Microchip> Man....al this is very confusing. some say they have already put Interpol after us...other say that they arent tryint to get us hard

<OwlClone> interesting

<OwlClone> the fbi people i've talked to say they've notified interpol...

<OwlClone> didn't say anything more than that

<Microchip> we wont comment that. We had big planns but media were waiting to see and we decided to wait for a better time . We arent doing this to the media

<Microchip> what?

<OwlClone> what what?

<Microchip> so you know that Interpol is trying to get us

<OwlClone> yes... they have been notified

<OwlClone> according to FBI agents we've talked to at least

<OwlClone> or, rather, a FBI agent

<Microchip> are you saing that you have info that Interpol is trully after us?

<Microchip> thats why we need to stay low ....

<OwlClone> No... they have been *notified* of your existance

<OwlClone> that's all we know

<OwlClone> shall we continue

<OwlClone> ?

<Microchip> thats why we cant do massive hacks yet because they could accelarete the investigations

<Microchip> yes

<OwlClone> OK

<Microchip> next question

<OwlClone> What do you think you're really accomplishing by defacing a server?  You've said you're making a statement against the FBI -- but do you think this is an effective way of making a statement?

<Microchip> of course. the only way we can make the w0rd spread is by hacking ....

<Microchip> by hacking US servers we can make our message go to the FBI....

<OwlClone> Are there certain servers you wouldn't deface?

<Microchip> By showing them that we control this side and that in this side they cant control us

<Microchip> There are servers which in order to be defaced we need to carefully.

<OwlClone> How about charitable organisations?

<Microchip> There are important servers which if they are hacked its almost certain we get in troubles

<Microchip> what about them?

<OwlClone> would you hack a charitable organisation's site?

<Microchip> of course not....or we wouldnt only by istake and belive me thats difficult

<OwlClone> Fair enough.

<Microchip> maybe some of them are more protected then some gov servers

<OwlClone> Earlier in this interview, you said you were worried about the FBI snatching you...

<Microchip> yeah

<OwlClone> But you just now said that you're sending a message to the FBI that you can touch them -- but they can't touch you

<OwlClone> Which is more accurate?  The message or the fear?

<Microchip> the message. they can touch us only on the real world. On this cyberworld they cant get us down...

<Microchip> when we say they cant get us we mean they cant control us when we are here on this side....

<OwlClone> Would you say the FBI would be capable of infiltrating your systems?

<Microchip>

<Microchip> FBI only knows how to lock down hackers. nothing else. even to do a reboot they need a manual

<OwlClone> Your hacks tend not to have a message contained on the page --\

<OwlClone> usually there's just a forpaxe logo and a little text, correct?

<Microchip> They are FEDS not hackers

<Microchip> yes

<OwlClone> Why don't you post a message about the feds?

<Microchip> we dont have time for more.......all this takes time and we like to keep our style...

<OwlClone> Fair enough

<Microchip> in some of the hacks we post a message about the FEDS

<OwlClone> How do you feel about the media's portrayal of hackers -- and of forpaxe?

<Microchip> we cant always be talking about them because people know that when we hack something we are hacking because of them

<Microchip> .

<Microchip> sometimes media mix up things. They call us criminals. They say things like they arent....

<Microchip> They try to make us the bad guys but we know that most people doesnt think like that....

<OwlClone> Can you give us any indication of what your 'big thing' was going to be -- or still will be?

<Microchip> most of them just want to sell newspapers etc...

<Microchip> no comments about that

<OwlClone> Understandably so.

<OwlClone> How do you feel about other hacker  / cracker groups and how they behave?

<Microchip> Some groups i support them. They want to make a difference. They have motives. Some of them even help us out by fighting for the same reason as us.

<OwlClone> you say that *you* support them, and then you say *us*

<OwlClone> how many members does forpaxe have?

<Microchip> Other groups just want to talk shit about us. Some portuguese groups want us really bad. In fact they are jealous with all this media hype.

<Microchip> 5 but in the hacks only 2 are involved and most of them are executed by me....

<Microchip> i dont want to get more troubles to the rest of the members

<OwlClone> has forpaxe been receiving a lot of attention in the portugese press?

<Microchip> For 15 minutes we were talked everywhere but only to sell ... they dont give a shit to what we fight. They just want to sell even if they need to make things seemlike different...

<Microchip> things are calming down and that is what we want

<OwlClone> I noticed in your source code that you use blank gifs and nested tables...

<OwlClone> Do you use an html generator?

<Microchip> THere are newspapers fighting each others to get an interview with us. but we dont want more interviews...

<Microchip> yes

<OwlClone> mind if i ask what generator?

<Microchip> that doesnt matter

<OwlClone> very true

<OwlClone> anyway... onto the more technical side

<Microchip> i thought we are talking about hacking

<OwlClone> we are ;-)

<OwlClone> do you tend to use canned exploits

<OwlClone> or do you write your own?

<OwlClone> hello?

<Microchip> we do everthing. in the future we plan to continue with what we wanted to do and with what we were doing. Mostly coding and investigating. People dont know but we like investigating.. Hacking its not only defacing servers. The true hacking is developing new exploits, investigating, coding ....

<Microchip> hello?

<OwlClone> are there any systems you find more vulnerable than others, or signals that a server is vulnerable to your attacks?

<Microchip> can we finish this up... i need to go...

<OwlClone> sure, one more question after this, how's that?

<Microchip> some of them are very vulnerable.. other not so much but a server to be hacked only needs to be a little vulnerable. It doesnt matter it its much or not..

<Microchip> ok

<OwlClone> Is there anything you'd like to say to the readers of OSAll that you haven't said yet?

<Microchip> yes. Fight for what you believe. Dont pay atention to some Portuguese groups who dont care about the internatioanl scene. Dont be influenced by the media. Stay tunned for what we have to say and try to think about all this. We are here to stay and to show who we really are. remember FREE KEVIN. Remember. Lets clean all this mess...all this injustice....FBI cant beat us....

<Microchip>

<Microchip> >any last question?

<OwlClone> No, I'm all set.