[14:03] <OwlClone> Now, are you a current member of gH?

[14:03] <mosthated> Yes i am, the new gH which was created to help networks after acussed of destroying them.

[14:04] <OwlClone> I see...  You mean that you're now security consultants?

[14:04] <mosthated> I run my own company http://www.pure-security.net/ and alot of others have went their own way to work for other companies.

[14:05] <OwlClone> What about Chad Davis (aka Mindphasr)?

[14:05] <mosthated> He had a rough life and planed on going to college and worked at US cellular at one time.

[14:06] <OwlClone> When he was arrested, I heard he just confessed -- know if that's true?

[14:08] <OwlClone> He tell you why he confessed? 

[14:08] <mosthated> He told them he did it and explained how it was done and at the time he did it all the way until the otherday, he told me he had no idea it was on a pentagon networks.

[14:08] <mosthated> He told me they had alot on him and had nothing else to do, which i agree with.

[14:08] <OwlClone> Yeah... seems kind of dangerous to go around the Pentagon like that.  He must have known it was military, of course...

[14:09] <mosthated> He knew of that i guess, but no idea the Pentagon, his mistake and the government capitalized on it.

[14:09] <OwlClone> Yeah.

[14:10] <OwlClone> Did he do it because he wanted to revive gH (I mean the defacement) or because he wanted to send a message to the government, or...?

[14:11] <mosthated> I have no idea, because when it happened, no one had any knowledge of it being him, because after the raids no one said anything if they hacked something, in other groups as well, everyon keept everything to themselves, which is what he did i guess.  I didn't think it would be him to do such a thing, i mean, honestly, rumer went around about several people did it to fake a hack by gH to get them in trouble.

[14:11] <mosthated> But now the truth is revealed.

[14:12] <OwlClone> Hmm

[14:12] <OwlClone> Do you have any idea what the government is going to do?  As far as giving him a break for confessing or what not?

[14:13] <mosthated> No idea, i just hope he learned his lesson and finally learned from yet another mistake.

[14:13] <OwlClone> Has he made a lot of these mistakes?

[14:14] <mosthated> Not alot of mistakes in general, but the biggest was this after the raid, which i have no idea what he was thinking.  People say hacking is an addiction, it is not, itz the fame they are addicted to.

[14:15] <OwlClone> I can understand that... You know, some people on Slashdot (including /. itself) have said this could turn into a Mitnick-like scenario.  Can you see that happening?

[14:17] <mosthated> I have no idea, i just wish people would understand what they are getting themselves into, even before i was raided i had already been legit for a bit, doing security work for multiple clients and getting my friends to help, but they wanted to push for fame and now we see where that gets them, it is more knowledgeable to keep a hacker out a system then to run an automated program to get in one, they need to realize that.

[14:17] <OwlClone> Did mindphasr just run automated programs?

[14:19] <mosthated> At a degree, he had knowledge, but as easy as it was to get the automated programs, he as well as 90% of the community at one point in time will run automated programs.

[14:19] <OwlClone> This is true.

[14:20] <OwlClone> I'm not going to ask you how many sites he actually defaced... I don't think that's something that should be out while he's int rouble.

[14:20] <OwlClone> Rather, I'll ask you how good he was.

[14:21] <mosthated> I have known mindphasr for years and in that stretch of time we really never matched or questioned each others skills, but when he wanted something done, he did it, utilities, etc.  He had great unix knowledge and overall seemed like a pretty successful person in the scene as to say the least.

[14:22] <OwlClone> Think he has potential as a security consultant after he gets out of jail (assuming he goes)?

[14:22] <OwlClone> Excuse me, by the way, I'll be five minutes, I have to pick someone up :-)

[14:22] <OwlClone> Be right back

[14:24] <OwlClone> Back

[14:24] <OwlClone> Sorry about that

[14:25] <OwlClone> Still there?

[14:25] <mosthated> Most likely not, i mean he will be in jail with no chance of accessing computers and even at this point he can't access a cpu so most likely he will loose all known knowledge about computers by the time everything is over.

[14:26] <OwlClone> Yeah

[14:26] <OwlClone> Anything he wants to get out there -- you or him?

[14:26] <mosthated> What do you mean?

[14:26] <OwlClone> Anything you guys want to say?

[14:29] <mosthated> well, i would hope that alot of people witness this around the world and realize that it isn't right, no reason to fight the government, they are doing their jobs.  Just don't get involved in illegal activities and do things the right way.  I myself am working on a paper which should show alot of people the right way to do things if it is hacking they want to do, but other then that, gH has went fully legit and wishes for more groups to go this route as well.

[14:29] <OwlClone> Sounds good to me, mh... Thanks a lot

[14:30] <OwlClone> ---

[14:30] <OwlClone> END INTERVIEW

[14:30] <mosthated> Also i would like people to visit http://www.pure-security.net/ and read what happened to mindphasr since i have the facts straight and other news articles are completely wrong.

[14:30] <OwlClone> :-)

[14:30] <mosthated> ACK